Curse

Moriya · Apr 06, 2010, 07:11 PM // 19:11

I basically quit playing so I'm gonna release some of my more unique builds that work

[Charm Animal] [Scavenger Strike] [Barbed Spear] [Heal as One] ["They're on Fire"] [Anthem of Weariness] [Burning Refrain] [Signet of Return]
P/R
Beast Mastery 12
Leadership 10+1+1
Command 8+1
Spear Master 2+1

Full survivors
With a +5 energy spear and a command shield

Cast burning refrain on your DIRE pet yourself and any melee teammate or all teammates if they attack
The point is to spam They're on Fire to reduce damage along with weakness
You can replace Signet of Return with Res Sig
Most everything else has to be static

I'll post more if I get a good response

-Edit-
In case picture doesnt show

Bobby2 · Apr 06, 2010, 07:34 PM // 19:34

In what universe is this better than R/P

Moriya · Apr 06, 2010, 07:37 PM // 19:37

In the universe of burning and weakness with They're on Fire
The point isn't just condition spam, its party protection

Moriya · Apr 06, 2010, 07:43 PM // 19:43

You could at least try the build before you start watting me like a fly swatter

Karate Jesus · Apr 06, 2010, 07:52 PM // 19:52

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Originally Posted by Moriya

You could at least try the build before you start watting me like a fly swatter

You don't need to try a build in order to understand if it's proficient in a given area or not. Just knowing the area well and the skills (both of which, I do) will give you a general understanding of the build's effectiveness.

To be perfectly honest, it looks like a normal Cruel Spear build could easily outclass your damage and self heals are probably not something a Para should focus on in small arenas.

Oh, and as has already been pointed out, R/P's run HaO builds better and having 3 in spear mastery is just a bad idea.

Abedeus · Apr 06, 2010, 07:55 PM // 19:55

This is actually a pretty terr...ible build.

Moriya · Apr 06, 2010, 08:00 PM // 20:00

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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

You don't need to try a build in order to understand if it's proficient in a given area or not. Just knowing the area well and the skills (both of which, I do) will give you a general understanding of the build's effectiveness.

To be perfectly honest, it looks like a normal Cruel Spear build could easily outclass your damage and self heals are probably not something a Para should focus on in small arenas.

Oh, and as has already been pointed out, R/P's run HaO builds better and having 3 in spear mastery is just a bad idea.

You're missing the point
This build isn't suppose to outdamage anything; its meant purely for support
HaO is for Pet res as your pet is your main source of burning due to its 420 health with dire
Scavenger Strike is an energy engine to spam "They're on Fire" which hardly sees any play at all in RA due to energy intensiveness despite its good effect

R/P's run condition spam builds with HaO for more dmg and shield yes but the focus on this build was never the conditions but the protection from "They're on Fire" from leadership which R's dont get

Karate Jesus · Apr 06, 2010, 08:04 PM // 20:04

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Originally Posted by Moriya

You're missing the point
This build isn't suppose to outdamage anything; its meant purely for support
HaO is for Pet res as your pet is your main source of burning due to its 420 health with dire
Scavenger Strike is an energy engine to spam "They're on Fire" which hardly sees any play at all in RA due to energy intensiveness despite its good effect

R/P's run condition spam builds with HaO for more dmg and shield yes but the focus on this build was never the conditions but the protection from "They're on Fire" from leadership which R's dont get

You're missing the point. Killing enemies in RA is support. The more quickly you kill, the less damage the other team does.

You'll get more protection by forcing enemies to kite/defend/die than you ever could with "ToF!", especially in RA.

Moriya · Apr 06, 2010, 08:09 PM // 20:09

Then there would never be any point in weakness, blindbots, communing rits, half of both necro and mes builds
and everyone would be running smite monks and Ray of Judgment

FoxBat · Apr 06, 2010, 08:10 PM // 20:10

Unique builds that "work" != optimal. It's for lulz when bored.

Karate Jesus · Apr 06, 2010, 08:18 PM // 20:18

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Originally Posted by Moriya

Then there would never be any point in weakness, blindbots, communing rits, half of both necro and mes builds
and everyone would be running smite monks and Ray of Judgment

I'll answer you by repeating yourself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

You'll get more protection by forcing enemies to kite/defend/die than you ever could with "ToF!", especially in RA.

Utility, like blind, weakness, weapon spells, etc., cause enemies to kite or defend. They're losing damage when you use skills like that. Your build really does neither. You could be doing damage and weakness and pressure, but instead you're just spread out and wasting time.

Moriya · Apr 06, 2010, 08:20 PM // 20:20

Did you completely miss Anthem of Weariness? Burning from Burning Refrain isn't pressure?
I think you actually have to try the build before you start criticizing

Karate Jesus · Apr 06, 2010, 09:02 PM // 21:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moriya

Did you completely miss Anthem of Weariness? Burning from Burning Refrain isn't pressure?
I think you actually have to try the build before you start criticizing

Again, you misunderstood me. I was suggesting that this build could do all of those things better. As it currently stands, you're just doing them all poorly.

Moriya · Apr 06, 2010, 09:14 PM // 21:14

Then by all means do it
I never said this was the end of all paragon builds its just a different way to look at an already scarce profession which was built for support
Sure you can add more damage easily to this build
Replace Barbed Spear with Feral Lunge or Merciless Spear for Deep Wound
I just said it worked, I never said it was the best thing ever

Gift3d · Apr 07, 2010, 12:08 AM // 00:08

is this a joke? honest question.

Regulus X · Apr 07, 2010, 01:14 AM // 01:14

That hard res is rupt-fodder. You need a formidable blocking stance, and pray to Dwayna that the opposition doesn't have Magebane Ranger.

Also, no IAS = baed for any physical attacker [period].

I Throw Cats · Apr 07, 2010, 07:06 AM // 07:06

i think im actualy going to try this out. o_O

kinda curious about the other builds you have anyways.

Stealth Bomberman · Apr 08, 2010, 03:44 PM // 15:44

well.....i respect you for going out of the meta. props to the real players.

Karate Jesus · Apr 08, 2010, 03:46 PM // 15:46

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Originally Posted by Stealth Bomberman

well.....i respect you for going out of the meta. props to the real players.

Pretty much running any Para build in RA is outside the meta.

That doesn't mean it has to be terrible.

arturfel · Apr 15, 2010, 10:41 AM // 10:41

They are on fire looks cool. I used to play a brutal strike build, was pretty nice too. Para with pets are fun to play.

edit: find my pet build

[build prof=P/R comma=4 lea=9 spe=10 bea=11][merciless spear][brutal strike][strike as one][go for the eyes][aggressive refrain][comfort animal][charm animal][resurrection signet][/build]